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		<title>By: Betty S</title>
		<link>http://robinbrande.com/writing/the-virginity-chat#comment-4254</link>
		<dc:creator>Betty S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly.  It is a choice. 

A man who feels entitled is no more worthy than a man who feels you are unworthy because you once made a choice.  Love and intimacy comes from the heart, not the vagina.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.  It is a choice. </p>
<p>A man who feels entitled is no more worthy than a man who feels you are unworthy because you once made a choice.  Love and intimacy comes from the heart, not the vagina.</p>
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		<title>By: robin</title>
		<link>http://robinbrande.com/writing/the-virginity-chat#comment-4250</link>
		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betty, I know a lot of people feel that way.  I just want to make sure girls and young women realize the power they have to choose.  I never want girls to view themselves or treat themselves like a piece of meat.  I believe in dignity and conscious choice about how we use our bodies.

So if a young woman decides that this is the right use of her body, with the right person, and she has taken all the appropriate precautions against hurting herself (birth control, STD protection, etc.), AND she can handle the emotional consequences of being so intimate with someone, then she should follow her heart.

But it's not a casual thing, and I've seen too many people experience the emotional damage that comes from acting too early and/or too often, sharing their bodies with people who do not respect them or treat them with the care every young woman deserves.

In short, GIRL POWER!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betty, I know a lot of people feel that way.  I just want to make sure girls and young women realize the power they have to choose.  I never want girls to view themselves or treat themselves like a piece of meat.  I believe in dignity and conscious choice about how we use our bodies.</p>
<p>So if a young woman decides that this is the right use of her body, with the right person, and she has taken all the appropriate precautions against hurting herself (birth control, STD protection, etc.), AND she can handle the emotional consequences of being so intimate with someone, then she should follow her heart.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not a casual thing, and I&#8217;ve seen too many people experience the emotional damage that comes from acting too early and/or too often, sharing their bodies with people who do not respect them or treat them with the care every young woman deserves.</p>
<p>In short, GIRL POWER!!</p>
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		<title>By: Betty S</title>
		<link>http://robinbrande.com/writing/the-virginity-chat#comment-4249</link>
		<dc:creator>Betty S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virginity is highly over rated. I would never consider buying so much as a pair of shoes without trying them on first. And marriage is so much more important than shoes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virginity is highly over rated. I would never consider buying so much as a pair of shoes without trying them on first. And marriage is so much more important than shoes.</p>
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		<title>By: robin</title>
		<link>http://robinbrande.com/writing/the-virginity-chat#comment-4236</link>
		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 02:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vc, thank you for sharing your story.  It's so useful to hear what other people's experiences have been.  I'd say you handled yourself admirably, and have done a great job making sure your daughter, and therefore her daughters, are well-informed.  Yay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vc, thank you for sharing your story.  It&#8217;s so useful to hear what other people&#8217;s experiences have been.  I&#8217;d say you handled yourself admirably, and have done a great job making sure your daughter, and therefore her daughters, are well-informed.  Yay!</p>
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		<title>By: Vc</title>
		<link>http://robinbrande.com/writing/the-virginity-chat#comment-4233</link>
		<dc:creator>Vc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 00:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh.  Well, I was no longer a virgin by the time I was 17.  And due to a total lack of honesty and input either by my mother or what the Health teacher was supposed to be teaching us in school (effectively nothing from either end), I was pregnant before I was 18.

Of course, STDs were the "relatively harmless" sort back then (I graduated from high school in 1965) - no AIDS etc.  And so really the worst thing that could happen at that point was pregnancy "out of wedlock" as it were.

I however, far from being self-loathing or even particularly worried about the whole situation, simply married my daughter's father (after having gone with him for two years by that point) and proceeded to go on my merrry way - though the first thing I did after her birth was go on the Pill (because I am NOT and never was cut out to be a parent and I had no intention of ever being one a SECOND time) - which yes, was available at the time I got pregnant: IF your parents approved a minor having it  prescribed (no way in hell THAT was going to happen....) I'm to this day not sure my mid-vic-mindset of a mother knew what caused pregnancy herself.... much less that a sexually active teenager would be a good candidate for the Pill.

What I DID do was make very very sure that my daughter knew what she needed to know - even though we didn't "speak" much at the time it became important.  And I believe she's approaching this in the same way with her daughters.

I live in Utah, and so you may imagine that the "pure and virgin until marriage" attitude is MORE than alive and well here.  For kids brought up and truly involved in the Mormon church, it works pretty well.

But what happens here is there is NO ALTERNATIVE for kids who aren't of that religious orientation/cultural mindset.  Family planning's hands are tied.  It's not a good thing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh.  Well, I was no longer a virgin by the time I was 17.  And due to a total lack of honesty and input either by my mother or what the Health teacher was supposed to be teaching us in school (effectively nothing from either end), I was pregnant before I was 18.</p>
<p>Of course, STDs were the &#8220;relatively harmless&#8221; sort back then (I graduated from high school in 1965) - no AIDS etc.  And so really the worst thing that could happen at that point was pregnancy &#8220;out of wedlock&#8221; as it were.</p>
<p>I however, far from being self-loathing or even particularly worried about the whole situation, simply married my daughter&#8217;s father (after having gone with him for two years by that point) and proceeded to go on my merrry way - though the first thing I did after her birth was go on the Pill (because I am NOT and never was cut out to be a parent and I had no intention of ever being one a SECOND time) - which yes, was available at the time I got pregnant: IF your parents approved a minor having it  prescribed (no way in hell THAT was going to happen&#8230;.) I&#8217;m to this day not sure my mid-vic-mindset of a mother knew what caused pregnancy herself&#8230;. much less that a sexually active teenager would be a good candidate for the Pill.</p>
<p>What I DID do was make very very sure that my daughter knew what she needed to know - even though we didn&#8217;t &#8220;speak&#8221; much at the time it became important.  And I believe she&#8217;s approaching this in the same way with her daughters.</p>
<p>I live in Utah, and so you may imagine that the &#8220;pure and virgin until marriage&#8221; attitude is MORE than alive and well here.  For kids brought up and truly involved in the Mormon church, it works pretty well.</p>
<p>But what happens here is there is NO ALTERNATIVE for kids who aren&#8217;t of that religious orientation/cultural mindset.  Family planning&#8217;s hands are tied.  It&#8217;s not a good thing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: robin</title>
		<link>http://robinbrande.com/writing/the-virginity-chat#comment-4231</link>
		<dc:creator>robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 00:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BJ, I hear ya.  Thanks.

Readerdiane, love your last line there.  Also, "hypocrites are us."  Talk about honest.

Lizzie, thanks for weighing in on this one.  I agree with you--it really is absurd.  Not talking about it won't make it go away.  Humans are humans, teens are teens, and we do a disservice by not preparing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BJ, I hear ya.  Thanks.</p>
<p>Readerdiane, love your last line there.  Also, &#8220;hypocrites are us.&#8221;  Talk about honest.</p>
<p>Lizzie, thanks for weighing in on this one.  I agree with you&#8211;it really is absurd.  Not talking about it won&#8217;t make it go away.  Humans are humans, teens are teens, and we do a disservice by not preparing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://robinbrande.com/writing/the-virginity-chat#comment-4230</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 23:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, I don't know if Robin should view that as a favorable or unfavorable comparison to Janet Jackson's nipple.  Either way, being compared to JJsN has to rank up there as an accomplishment.

Heather, the ways of a Space Lord are vast and often incomprehensible to the average person or even the above average person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, I don&#8217;t know if Robin should view that as a favorable or unfavorable comparison to Janet Jackson&#8217;s nipple.  Either way, being compared to JJsN has to rank up there as an accomplishment.</p>
<p>Heather, the ways of a Space Lord are vast and often incomprehensible to the average person or even the above average person.</p>
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		<title>By: Lizzie</title>
		<link>http://robinbrande.com/writing/the-virginity-chat#comment-4229</link>
		<dc:creator>Lizzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 22:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having recently been in high school, I can tell you it is ABSURD the way sex is treated in schools - akin to religion.  Like somehow NOT talking about it will make the situation go away.  Except in the case of sex, not talking about it makes for babies, abortions, STDs, and kids who feel alienated and confused because they don't know that's going on inside their own body.

ABSURD, I say!!!  ABSURD!!!

Luckily, my parents were always very open with me, and gave me the tools to make good choices.  Thanks to them, I've never made a sexual decision I regret, and I doubt I ever will.

p.s. I'm glad your tour went so well!  Sorry I didn't comment at all, but it's been a crazy week here as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having recently been in high school, I can tell you it is ABSURD the way sex is treated in schools - akin to religion.  Like somehow NOT talking about it will make the situation go away.  Except in the case of sex, not talking about it makes for babies, abortions, STDs, and kids who feel alienated and confused because they don&#8217;t know that&#8217;s going on inside their own body.</p>
<p>ABSURD, I say!!!  ABSURD!!!</p>
<p>Luckily, my parents were always very open with me, and gave me the tools to make good choices.  Thanks to them, I&#8217;ve never made a sexual decision I regret, and I doubt I ever will.</p>
<p>p.s. I&#8217;m glad your tour went so well!  Sorry I didn&#8217;t comment at all, but it&#8217;s been a crazy week here as well!</p>
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		<title>By: readerdiane</title>
		<link>http://robinbrande.com/writing/the-virginity-chat#comment-4228</link>
		<dc:creator>readerdiane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 21:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My best advice is to be honest because some of these kids really do have a good BS meter. I think if you say that this was the best choice for me without preaching about it, then the kids will respect you for it.

You have to remember that we are supposed to be preaching abstinence to these young adults. Hypocrites are us. I wasn't the oldest virgin but I didn't have a serious boy friend until college. When my own children asked I answered honestly, but I haven't dared ask them back. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My best advice is to be honest because some of these kids really do have a good BS meter. I think if you say that this was the best choice for me without preaching about it, then the kids will respect you for it.</p>
<p>You have to remember that we are supposed to be preaching abstinence to these young adults. Hypocrites are us. I wasn&#8217;t the oldest virgin but I didn&#8217;t have a serious boy friend until college. When my own children asked I answered honestly, but I haven&#8217;t dared ask them back. <img src='http://robinbrande.com/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: bj</title>
		<link>http://robinbrande.com/writing/the-virginity-chat#comment-4227</link>
		<dc:creator>bj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, as a result of your fame with the book, and your presentations to them, you've become a role model whether you wanna be or not. Considering the kids have Janet Jackson and her damn nipple on the TV, what's so bad about having you in their very own schoolroom up close and personal, and admitting to not losing your virginity until what's now considered "later"?

I don't see anything terrible about that.

The oldest out of all your friends, huh? Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, as a result of your fame with the book, and your presentations to them, you&#8217;ve become a role model whether you wanna be or not. Considering the kids have Janet Jackson and her damn nipple on the TV, what&#8217;s so bad about having you in their very own schoolroom up close and personal, and admitting to not losing your virginity until what&#8217;s now considered &#8220;later&#8221;?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anything terrible about that.</p>
<p>The oldest out of all your friends, huh? Wow.</p>
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